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Post by piney on Jan 25, 2016 12:43:14 GMT -6
So, my buddy just bought a Smith 500, he wants me to find out what kind of scope and scope mount to put on the beast. I haven't put much time into it yet, but I gather stainless steel is probably a good idea so the whole works doesn't get sheared due to extreme recoil (and four sets of scope rings if they will fit, if not, then three). I'm clueless about scopes for extreme recoil on a pistol, any ideas? I will be skipping my turn with this revolver at the range.
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Post by armedandsafe on Jan 25, 2016 14:52:58 GMT -6
FirstInLine got to fire a 500 once. All the guys at the range were snorting and laughing at "The little lady's gunna fire the BIIIIIG gun." She fired 5 rounds and asked for another load out. I had taught her to lock her elbows when firing big-bore pistols, as her carry piece was a .357 Mag snubby. That puts the swing of the gun up from the shoulders, which saves you from bloody nose syndrome. For reliable scope on a big bore such as that, don't go for the cheap ones. Get one which specifies for high recoil resistance. Remember that pistol scopes don't get the recoil forces that big-bore rifles deliver, because so much of the energy is used in moving the pistol upward. Therefore they don't experience the sudden shock that rifle scopes do. The recoil energy is delivered over a much longer time period. Rifles move a very short distance upon recoil,, while pistols move a much longer distance. Pops
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Post by shooteruk on Jan 28, 2016 15:57:27 GMT -6
Cant say I ever wanted a big bore handgun. I can see the fun, but imagine it would get old fast. Hurting hands and empty pockets. The biggest I ever owned was a Smith in .45LC, cant remember if it was a 4" or 3", but it was blue and handled very well.
As for scoping, I would think less is more. Two mounts would surely be enough. Keeping in mind the more you add, the heavier she gets. Though heavy helps with recoil, then you can add wheels...
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Post by piney on Jan 28, 2016 16:12:05 GMT -6
Oh, I think the .45LC would be a gentle kitten compared to this beast. I personally think it's crazy, but what do I know, I am the only gal I know that shoots .357 and can rack a 1911.
I did see on the Smith & Wesson forums that they recommend 4 scope rings, and if 4 won't fit, then three. Argh. Stainless steel so the screws won't strip out. I don't even know if there will be a selection of scopes for that, nobody local has any ideas.
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Post by piney on Jan 28, 2016 17:13:50 GMT -6
Well, I jumped in. Got the stainless rail, two pair of Leupold rings, and a Simmons ProHunter Truplex 4x32mm fixed scope. Not bad for under $200, I hope my buddy is happy.
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Post by piney on Feb 5, 2016 6:47:13 GMT -6
I have received all the packages in the mail, that revolver is going to be wicked heavy! I'm not thrilled about the large caliber handguns, but I have to wonder now about putting a [lighter] scope on one of my handguns to see what it's like.
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Post by armedandsafe on Feb 5, 2016 17:21:21 GMT -6
I've never liked scoped handguns. However, I've one with a red dot and have fired several others with the red dot. Those are OK. Because I am a proponent of point shooting, my opinion might not count. Pops
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Post by piney on Feb 5, 2016 20:10:14 GMT -6
Whenever I see somebody's scoped anything, I think of how great it is to be able to see the target, but I don't usually shoot handguns further than 10 yards really, so it doesn't matter because I can see fine at that distance. Heck, I was hitting 1/4" off the center with my Bushmaster rifle at 50 yards with open sights! Not bad for astigmatism. What I wonder about is the 500S&W at, say, 50 yards or more. I will have to look up the information on that round because I'm curious. (By the way, I don't think it will be nearly as cool as my buddy thinks it will be, but it will look impressively intimidating, and maybe that's what he's going for. )
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Post by Alpo on Feb 6, 2016 12:31:24 GMT -6
Used to have a Contender with a scoped 22 barrel. I could not hold it steady enough. Just the irons - I could tell it was wiggling a little, but not much. With the magnification, that damn crosshair kept moving off the bull.
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Post by piney on Feb 6, 2016 12:37:34 GMT -6
If I'm hanging around at the range, using the bench and 25+ yards, I think a scope would be rather nice for some pistols. The more I think about it, the more nutty this whole idea is, this scope is not small or light. The whole thing is gonna weigh as much as a rifle but won't have the balance of a rifle with a butt stock! I can't wait to see it though, I wish my buddy would call.
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Post by shooteruk on Feb 7, 2016 10:44:11 GMT -6
Indeed pinecone, when does a pistol become a rifle? Long barrelled, huge calibre and a scope. You know if its what he wants and he has fun, why not? However you have moved a long way away from what a handgun is supposed to be.
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Post by Alpo on Feb 7, 2016 11:59:32 GMT -6
I think it's for people that want to say they go "handgun hunting".
Like in-line muzzle-loaders. They LOOK like a bolt-action rifle, they FEEL like a bolt-action rifle, they HAVE AN ADJUSTABLE TRIGGER like a bolt-action rifle, they USE JACKETED SOFT POINT BULLETS like a bolt-action rifle, and you SCOPE THEM like a bolt action rifle.
But it's a MUZZLE LOADER and they use it during PRIMITIVE WEAPONS SEASON, just like DAN'L BOONE.
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Post by shooteruk on Feb 7, 2016 15:16:54 GMT -6
I guess its whats right for you, what floats your boat. I never got handgun hunting. I like hunting though dont do it any more. One very important part to me, and many others was the importance of a clean kill. No competent hunter I want to know wants the animal to suffer. In order to make that shot, the best possible accuracy is needed. The hunter needs to know where his gun will print at a particular range, and his limitations ability wise. Are you a Siberian hunter that can hit a coin at 300 mtrs? Or a weekend plinker that can just about keep them in the ten ring at 25?
A rifle is better than a handgun for shooting accurately. Period, as Americans like to say. What a handgun can do is be there when you need it, cause its small. Handguns can also be fun. I know, I have shot many, many different types over forty years.
Let me put my opinion this way. If I had to go hunting to feed my family, I take a long gun. If I knew bad guys were coming, first choice...long gun. Something to carry all the time for self defence if needed? Handgun. Shooting fun? Handgun every time.
Am I making a point? I am quite enjoying it...
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Post by armedandsafe on Feb 7, 2016 18:59:16 GMT -6
Most people who hunt with pistols do so for the same reasons other people hunt with bows. The challenge and stealth required is what they are accomplishing.
Many other people make hunting pistols because "it's cooooool."
Pops
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Post by shooteruk on Feb 8, 2016 3:06:16 GMT -6
I see what your saying Pops, non the less they need to be sure they have the best possible chance of a clean kill. I have no problem with hunting, as I say I used to do it, its just respecting the animal and not wishing for it to suffer. I am not at all convinced this can be reliably achieved with handguns, let alone bows. I respect the hunters right to choose, but hope they might respect my right to an opinion. Especially as I am firmly pro hunting.
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