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Post by red14 on Nov 6, 2017 10:01:30 GMT -6
Mom used to say, ''things are never as good or as bad as they seem.''
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Post by armedandsafe on Nov 6, 2017 15:24:10 GMT -6
The powers that be. One thing wrong with today's world is that we, the people, are no longer putting those that "be" back into the populace. We just blindly keep them in power because "they are experienced" or such.
Pops
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Post by piney on Nov 7, 2017 7:33:24 GMT -6
Yes, because for a long time the people have been blindly following our "leaders" in gov to the point where they can get away with things easily, because the people are numb or cannot be bothered to care. Which period in history does that bring to mind?
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Post by shooteruk on Nov 7, 2017 14:51:29 GMT -6
The Chinese leader recently made a point. He suggested the rise of China, manufacture and economy might be compared with the problems the west are having. He suggested the one party system perhaps might be a model the west might consider. Of course, he misses the point entirely. Democracy doesnt work very well, but its our choice and we will accept the problems in exchange for the freedoms we enjoy. Thing is some will not get this and start to wonder...
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Post by unclefudd on Nov 19, 2017 11:23:28 GMT -6
Shooter, I too remember the threats made in the day by the Ruskies. I remember the drills to get down under the old wooden topped desks as protection from a bombing (nuclear) attack at school. But I am having trouble with some of your assessments of Trump and the Rs. In every word that I have read and every report I have seen there has been not a scent of discussions, collusion etc with ANY of the Trump people or family especially having to do with the elections. Thus far the only dealings have been with the Clintons and the uranium 1 and Fusion situations and the fortunes funneled into their pockets via several means.. Every investigation and or allegation of dealings with the Trumps has been debunked so far. They can't even find some.
I believe the Rs would very much LIKE to have sway in our elections and other important programs but as yet I have neither seen nor heard of actual results of their meddling or attempts. I agree, they and no one else should be allowed to meddle in any of our affairs uninvited.
As for Hillary and or Trump being elected, there is absolutely no doubt that the DNC chose to run the most crooked, lying, thieving person they could find and the PEOPLE did say "not this time and not here". My family is die-hard, IOWA, Dems and two of my brothers refused to vote at all because of their choices. I changed many yrs ago and became independent. Entire states who had historically voted dem, changed and as a result voted into office a complete stranger, a non politician, outsider. The "people" finally said NO, ENUFF, and sent Hillary packing in spite the polls showed there was absolutely no way she could lose.
I honestly believe before this is over, the people will finally get their day in court when a special prosecutor or council or grand jury decides to thoroughly investigate U1 and Fusion. We will then have definitive answers and two things will happen. 1. Hillary wil be indicted on multiple charges, (perhaps slick willy also, and 2. we will know for certain there was no dealings by any Trump people with the Rs having to do with ANYTHING let alone the elections.
In short, I believe James Comey and his last minute diatribe against Hillary and her own lack of character and the desire for "change" real change crushed her and handed an outsider the presidency. WE the PEOPLE had finally heard and had enough of her open and unabashed criminality.
Now, if the same people who elected him and also elected the majority to congress and senate would get off their A$$ES and work with the pres. there could be some of the greatest work on behalf of the "people" that has been done since Ronalds time in office.
UF
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Post by jwrauch on Nov 19, 2017 21:19:40 GMT -6
Well said UF !!! Trump is the consummate unpollitician . I heard a speaker say once that people don't understand language. If they did they'd know that poly means multiple or many and ticks are little blood suckers !!!
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