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Post by shooteruk on Jan 27, 2017 2:46:36 GMT -6
I shoot a Marlin in .357. Simple cleaning is easy, drop the lever, bolt and ejector out, clean them, clean barrel and thats about it. How often do they need a full disassembly and clean, hammer out, lifter etc...? Every time, once in a while?
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Post by armedandsafe on Jan 27, 2017 20:14:32 GMT -6
Lever actions are built to be used in dirty environments. Total tear down is not necessary unless you have dragged it through the mud and sand. Yes it should be cleaned once in awhile, as that gives you a chance to examine for wear, cracks, misfits and such. The basic rule for use on the range, was to do minimal cleaning in camp. A major cleaning and examination was performed upon reaching a town or returning to the bunkhouse.
More guns are worn out because of cleaning than from shooting.
Pops
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Post by shooteruk on Jan 28, 2017 2:17:17 GMT -6
Thanks Pops, your right about more guns being worn out through cleaning, and constant stripping than shooting. Having said that I was on a weeks course once with a Car15 (M4 to youngsters) and after not bothering to clean one evening had stoppages every third or fourth round the following day. Silly me. But then thats a gas operated firearm rather than a lever....
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Post by armedandsafe on Jan 28, 2017 17:30:04 GMT -6
True. However, just minimum, quick cleaning of a critical spot or two can carry even that one through tough times.
Pops
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Post by armedandsafe on Jan 28, 2017 17:34:06 GMT -6
Muzzle loaders, however have a completely different set of rules.
Shoot. Clean once a day for a week. Clean once a week for a month. Clean once a month until you shoot. Repeat.
Pops
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Post by shooteruk on Jan 29, 2017 11:04:30 GMT -6
Good grief, talk about filthy. I stripped it out and found deep carbon gunk in every corner. I was digging it out with a small screwdriver, a spade would have been quicker. No one has given this Marlin a deep clean for fifty years! Anyway, clean an light lubed.... Ready for flying monkeys or zombies!
Next, any ideas for explaining to the Mrs the black fingerprints on her new front door?
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Post by eddien on Jan 29, 2017 14:23:48 GMT -6
Good grief, talk about filthy. I stripped it out and found deep carbon gunk in every corner. I was digging it out with a small screwdriver, a spade would have been quicker. No one has given this Marlin a deep clean for fifty years! Anyway, clean an light lubed.... Ready for flying monkeys or zombies! Next, any ideas for explaining to the Mrs the black fingerprints on her new front door? Martians?
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Post by jwrauch on Jan 29, 2017 22:01:19 GMT -6
Good grief, talk about filthy. I stripped it out and found deep carbon gunk in every corner. I was digging it out with a small screwdriver, a spade would have been quicker. No one has given this Marlin a deep clean for fifty years! Anyway, clean an light lubed.... Ready for flying monkeys or zombies! Next, any ideas for explaining to the Mrs the black fingerprints on her new front door? Flying monkeys ? JR
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Post by jwrauch on Jan 29, 2017 22:05:26 GMT -6
Mrs R has gotten used to fingerprints !! jr
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Post by armedandsafe on Jan 30, 2017 0:35:10 GMT -6
Gandalf dropped by with a map.
Pops
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Post by armedandsafe on Jan 30, 2017 0:55:37 GMT -6
It is pretty much a given that any used firearm which comes in MUST be stripped and fully cleaned, inspected and lubed properly. Sometimes, you will be surprised and find that the gun is clean and lubed. Pops
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Post by shooteruk on Feb 2, 2017 0:59:06 GMT -6
Indeed so Pops. Not knowing how to strip a lever all the way added to the fact it worked led me to a false sense of security. I now know how, including which way up the lifter goes in (Thank you you tube). I will however refrain from full stripping too often for the reasons stated.
Funny thing but in years past I stripped and re assembled all sorts. There was no internet and you were down to advice and manuals. Often finding you missed a step and had to go back led in fact to a better understanding of the mechanism and where and how things fail on a particular gun. I have several books and you dont need to be a detective to find the oily fingerprints to figure out which ones I have messed with.
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Post by armedandsafe on Feb 2, 2017 23:56:58 GMT -6
Back in the very late 40s, I was over at a family friend's house (neighborhood gunsmith) browsing through one of his many manuals when I noticed there were a couple of pages missing. I asked him about that and he pointed to the wall behind his bench. The pages on the breakdown of a Luger were up there. Seems one of his customers had a captured one and had brought it in several times to have it put back together by said gunsmith. Pops
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Post by shooteruk on Feb 3, 2017 2:31:37 GMT -6
Ah the Luger. I have stripped a couple of those before now. The toggle action and its pin are tight and smooth like a swiss watch. One can see how it would be very vulnerable to dirt. Also the cockeyed route for the trigger to trip, side plate and all, not forgetting the claw for the main spring. Yes, I dont need instructions for a Luger, just dont like them.
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